
Introducing: This Week in Hospitality — The Sonder Collapse, Hilton’s New Bet, and Airbnb’s Hotel Ambitions
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In this episode of This Week in Hospitality, Zach Busekrus sits down with Scott Eddy, Ben Wolff, and Edwin Kramer to unpack three major stories dominating the travel and hospitality world. From Sonder’s dramatic collapse following Marriott’s termination, to Hilton’s launch of the Outset Collection, to Airbnb’s bold embrace of hotels — this was one of the most consequential weeks the industry has seen in years.
The team brings perspectives spanning global travel, hotel development, luxury operations, and hospitality tech. Fast-paced, unfiltered, and deeply informed — this is the weekly breakdown every hotelier, operator, developer, and investor should be listening to.
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Key Topics & Timestamps
00:00 — Introductions & why this podcast exists
11:20 — Story #1: Sonder × Marriott partnership collapses
19:16 — Ben’s take: STR brand value & commodity product problem
25:53 — Marriott, scale, loyalty, and future brand strategy
27:55 — Story #2: Hilton launches The Outset Collection
35:58 — Owner perspective: data, flag strategies, ROI trade-offs
41:09 — Independents vs. major flags: the next 10 years
44:19 — Story #3: Airbnb officially welcomes hotels
47:50 — Airbnb’s evolution into a hospitality ecosystem
52:59 — Does Airbnb need a total rebrand?
56:08 — “Back to hospitality roots” debate
57:01 — Wrap-up & what’s coming next
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Zach Busekrus — Journey
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Scott Eddy — Global Travel & Hospitality Expert @MrScottEddy
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Ben Wolff — Founder of Onera & Oasi
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Edwin Kramer — Luxury Hotelier Consultant & Former GM
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